Posted August 09, 2013

Evan Longoria on A-Rod’s return to Yankees: ‘I don’t think it’s fair’

Alex Rodriguez, Evan Longoria, Performance Enhancing Drugs
Alex Rodriguez and Evan Longoria

Alex Rodriguez and the Yankees are trying to chase down Evan Longoria and the Tampa Bay Rays in the AL East and wild-card races. (Mike Stobe/Getty Images)

Evan Longoria spoke to SI.com’s Jimmy Traina for his Hot Clicks Podcast on Thursday and had a few things to say about performance-enhancing drug use in the game and Alex Rodriguez’s return to the rival New York Yankees. On the latter subject, Longoria expressed dismay that Rodriguez’s appeal of his 211-game suspension in the Biogenesis case could allow him to impact the pennant race.

I don’t think it’s fair for the other teams, because I’m in the American League East. Whether he is 100 percent or not, whether his mind is where it needs to be or not, he can affect the game in a positive way. He can affect the game in a tremendous way, which is being in the lineup. In a pennant race, he’s a guy you don’t want in the lineup. Looking at it from that perspective and that perspective only, I don’t think it’s fair that we can’t have an arbitrator hear the case sooner.

If you get in a bench clearing brawl and a guy punches another guy and is ejected from the game and gets a 10-game suspension, you appeal that and it’s heard in the next three weeks. You either get 10 games or six games or whatever. I don’t understand why that process can’t happen for this.

Longoria’s Rays are two games behind the AL East-leading Red Sox and 3 1/2 games ahead of the Orioles, the third-place team in the wild-card race. Tampa Bay has six games remaining against Rodriguez’s Yankees this season, including three in New York in the penultimate series of the regular season. The Yankees also have 10 games remaining against the Red Sox, seven against the Orioles and are hosting the AL Central-leading Tigers at home this weekend. Tonight’s game, in fact, marks Rodriguez’s first home games since the announcement suspension and his return from the disabled list, both of which came on Monday.

With regard to PEDs in general, Longoria joined the growing chorus in stating that the 50-game suspension for a first-offense doesn’t seem to be a sufficient deterrent.

There’s always going to be people that try and beat the system, regardless of what profession you’re in or what you do. . . . But as far as punishment goes, I definitely feel the risk needs to outweigh the reward. The risk of a 50-game suspension does not outweigh the possibility of a guy playing half or three-quarters of a season and putting up career numbers and getting the contract the next year based off their play. . . .

I’m a voting member of the Major League Baseball player’s union, and my one vote by itself would mean nothing for changing policy, changing the way the punishment goes in the joint drug treatment and prevention program, but if everybody voted . . . because it seemed like an overwhelming number of players have spoken out on this issue whereas in the past it’s been very taboo, but it seems more players are starting to come forward and voicing their opinion negatively about cheating and PEDs.

If it comes to this offseason or the next, where we have [a] formal meeting [take] place where everybody in the union is there, and we have keynote players in the game today speaking adversely, then policy could get changed. The penalties could get more severe because guys want it out of the game.

86 comments
s15
s15

"If you get in a bench clearing brawl and a guy punches another guy and is ejected from the game and gets a 10-game suspension, you appeal that and it’s heard in the next three weeks. You either get 10 games or six games or whatever. I don’t understand why that process can’t happen for this."

That appeal could happen in 5 minutes as it is on video and a simple matter. Comparing the AROD situation to it shows how bright he is. That being said, AROD seems to be due a long suspension, although the PED's didn't seem to do much positive for him the last few years.

cstenp
cstenp

Speaking of hypocrites...if ANYONE out there...someone comes up to them and says I got a drug that can make that knee/back pain go away...but its illegal....Who wouldnt take it?..answer....No One

cstenp
cstenp

NFL wont test for for HGH for two yrs?  Fast  ripped guys with huge muscles= juice. As we are driving to the Jetgame "That Arod deserves a lifetime ban!" Ridiculous

Quasimodo44
Quasimodo44

So Eva Longoria spreads for an athlete, and now she is an expert on sports? Who cares what celebrities think about ANYTHING! Most of them are dumber than the average person on the street! Just because you can read your lines does not make you smart Eva!

NeoSmith
NeoSmith

It is about time that EVERY baseball player speak out against PEDs instead of protecting the cheaters.  The sport is irrevocably damaged now because every time an MLB player has a break out season, the first question is what PED is he using.

NY NBK Far Superior
NY NBK Far Superior

shays01 20 hours ago

Let A-Rod appeal, and let the appeal take as long as necessary.  But tell the Yankees that they will forfeit any (or all) wins in which A-Rod played should his appeal be denied

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That is the stupidest thing I ever heard the Yankee hate on this is ridiculous. I want every team to forfeit their wins and world series from past users. Lets see how many WS's and winning seasons we have in the league then.

H9
H9

Shut up Longoria!!

The SAME union that authorizes you clowns to strike and hold out for more money protects his rights as well! Out of 30 teams they only found THIRTEEN PLAYERS?!?!

You're probably not clean yourself!

And Rodriguez should be penalized FOUR TIMES as harshly as the others?!?!

MLB players association TOLD him to fight it! Why shouldn't he?!?!

Shut up and play ball.

KennethB.Jacobs
KennethB.Jacobs

it's all about the nationalprofessionalsportsmoneyvirus . . . it runs through every "sport" whether its amateur or professional . . . it's just more raucous and cutthroat at the professional level, that's all. . . . people do what they have to in order to keep collecting their big fat paychecks. . . baseball teams do whatever they have to in order to keep the turnstiles humming. . . and the professional leagues do whatever they have to do to keep the bucks rolling in. . . and the tv and newspaper guys keep stirring up the pot so people (suckers)  will watch and read and go to the parks and buy beerandhotdogs. . . and the beerand hotdog makers do what ever they have to do. . .   the nationalprofessionalsportsmoneyvirus starts right down in the Little League and expands through the towns, cities, states and country. The only thing that's any bigger is world wide soccer and the internationalprofessionalsportsmoneyvirus cuts even deeper because the entire planet is involved in that one. It's too late to do anything about it. the nationalprofessionalsportsmoneyvirus calls the shots and NOT the fan. Enjoy the games folks. There's no cure for the nationalprofessinalsportsmoneyvirus. The fan is the victim!

mystafugee
mystafugee

Longoria is a hypocrite, I doubt he's clean

shays01
shays01

Let A-Rod appeal, and let the appeal take as long as necessary.  But tell the Yankees that they will forfeit any (or all) wins in which A-Rod played should his appeal be denied 

6marK6
6marK6

A-Rod does not make his team better at all, so let it go. I agree, he is a busted cheater and should not be playing, but, this is a different era of authority, where the commissioner's office tries to get players to agree to be punished.

GeoffreyHolland
GeoffreyHolland

Hey Evan, shut up and let your UNION do what they do, you idiot.

Wisconsin Death Trip
Wisconsin Death Trip

Here's a question for ya........how many MLB players who are on record as stating Braun and A-Roid should be band, will themselves come up HOT for PEDS in the future. 

Batgao
Batgao

I think Longoria is not complaining because ARod can appeal and play, But what he is complaining about is that the start of the hearing for ARods appeal takes too long to start unlike the example he gives were when players decided to punch each other and handed out a penalty then the players decides to appeal the penalty given it will be heard within 3 weeks while ARods appeal would start to be heard months after the appeal.. it sucks for longoria cause if the AROD appeal is heard much earlier then good for the rays cause arod wont affect the pennant but since the appeal would be heard months after the appeal then Arod could affect the outcome of the pennant race..

26terry
26terry

Evidently, someone doesn't understand obstruction of justice..it's a little of a no no Evan..

Sportsfan18
Sportsfan18

Hey Evan, Nelson Cruz could have chosen to appeal his suspension and continued playing for the Rangers and that would have affected the playoff chase too...

So it's not fair to you when a player on another team chooses to appeal, which is something ALL of you players have the right to do, because it makes it harder for your team to win?

What if Arod played on the Astros?  Would you have still made this claim Evan?

shays01
shays01

@NY NBK Far Superior I said the same about the Giants back when Barry Bonds was playing … but then I had to say (to the effect of … it was a while ago), "let the League make an accusation or issue a suspension, then, if the Giants keep him in the line-up and he is found to have been lying, they should forfeit any games they won when he played."  The League, of course, made no such accusation and no evidence has ever been presented that Barry used illegal substances.  That's the difference, here:  A-Rod has actually been accused and suspended, has admitted (in the past) to use, and the Yankees … by putting him in the lineup … are also defying the League ruling.

shays01
shays01

@H9 Longoria is not criticizing the union … he is criticizing A-Rod.  As a matter of fact, he speaks quite eloquently (if indirectly) about the democratic nature of the players' union and the process by which it changes the rules.  Incidentally, the Players' Association did not tell A-Rod to fight the suspension.  They told him they would support his right to do so (which is exactly what a union does).

Voiceover310
Voiceover310

@mystafugee Given the fact that the league has gone to great lengths to catch anyone and everyone who is using PED's and Longoria is NOT on the list then I would say he is clean. The guy is a star in MLB. You think they haven't tested him on a regular basis? Unless you have some information that Bud Selig and the entire MLB organization doesn't have then it would seem that you are just another uninformed RE-RE. 

JohnP
JohnP

Stupid comment of the day goes to you

ChrisDavis1
ChrisDavis1

@shays01 Exactly.  There needs to be punishment for teams when they sign and play known PED users, should those users get "popped" again.

6marK6
6marK6

@shays01 Yeah, I don't understand the Yankees playing him, that is hypocritical. They have been the one fighting the hardest behind closed doors to kick him out of the league.

stevedumford
stevedumford

@GeoffreyHolland Hey Geoffrey....shut up and let Longoria exercise his right to free speech without an idiot calling him an idiot. 

acf53si
acf53si

He's comparing the case with case involving brawls.  Dumb.  The PED case has a lot more to investigate than a simple brawl. 

KristianColasacco
KristianColasacco

@GeoffreyHolland What's up Billy Bob?  Since you seem to be fond of throwing the term "idiot" around (assuming you've heard it a lot throughout your own life), you should pay attention to the fact that it is the "players union" and that as a player he does have a say in things.  Just like if there happened to be a union for Burger King janitors, you'd have some say in that.  

Longoria having an opinion is perfectly fine just like, and as sad as this is, you can have one too.  I would never tell you to shut up.  Although, that's mainly because it makes it easier to avoid you in the future.

Ryan16
Ryan16

@GeoffreyHolland ya what a complete tool, i mean who wants an even playing field without cheaters out there, certainly not me..........

stevedumford
stevedumford

@26terry Giving his opinion is not obstructing justice.  Thinking so is a little of a no no 26.

KristianColasacco
KristianColasacco

@Sportsfan18 WTF does Nelson Cruz have to do with Evan Longoria?  He's complaining about the amount of time it takes to hear the appeal and also saying that the punishment needs to be more severe to be a true deterrent.  Nelson Cruz has nothing to do with this.  

cstenp
cstenp

@6marK6 @shays01 If any of the Rays fails a test,they should forfeit season ?re donk cu lous

atthebarbershop
atthebarbershop

@6marK6 @shays01 They're playing him because they can use him, they're paying him a lot of money, and he can make a difference in the playoff run. An also because A-Rod has accused the Yankees of conspiring to prevent him from playing, if they sat him now, it would like A-Rod was right about that. 

AaronDunckel
AaronDunckel

@6marK6 @shays01 this is the yankees... if they're paying him, they'll play him to get any shot at winning they can

Sportsfan18
Sportsfan18

@KristianColasacco @Sportsfan18   Please tell me that you're not an American because it would be sad for us to have so little reading comprehension.

What does Nelson Cruz have to do with this?  Let me count the ways.

Here is a quote from Evan from the article above.

"I don’t think it’s fair for the other teams, because I’m in the American League East. "

So first off, Evan doesn't like this because Arod plays in his division.  

Then Evan goes on to say the following:

"In a pennant race, he’s a guy you don’t want in the lineup. Looking at it from that perspective and that perspective only..."


So, first and foremost he doesn't like this because Arod is in his division and he's worried that he might affect his team's playoff chances.

So what if Arod played for the Astro's or the Ranger's?  Would Evan being say this ABOUT Arod?


Now, Evan doesn't like that it takes so long to get an appeal heard.  But he isn't ONLY speaking about Arod.  He's speaking about the process as a whole.

Here is another quote from this article by Evan:

"There’s always going to be people that try and beat the system, regardless of what profession you’re in or what you do. . . . But as far as punishment goes, I definitely feel the risk needs to outweigh the reward. The risk of a 50-game suspension does not outweigh the possibility of a guy playing half or three-quarters of a season and putting up career numbers and getting the contract the next year based off their play. . . ."

He's taking about the entire process and ALL players.  He uses the work "their" which is plural.  He's talking about guys who still get paid, receive large contracts after getting caught and serving their 50 game suspension.

So, yes he IS mad that an appeal can't happen sooner, but he isn't ONLY mad because it has to do Arod.  He doesn't like it as a whole.  He's speaking to the larger issue at hand and not just Arod.

When he spoke only about Arod, it was that it wasn't fair because he plays in the American League East with his team and he's a guy you don't want to see or face (said Evan).

My point is that what if Arod simply accepted his appeal and say Nelson Cruz or some of the others decided to appeal?

I don't think Evan would have made these comments under those circumstances.  And why wouldn't he if he cares so much and wants the process changed?

He could have and should have made his argument without mentioning Arod.  He could say the things about hoping to change things like he did in the last paragraph above that he was quoted in and he could mention generally that the appeals process should be tweaked too.  

You do know that it (the appeals process) isn't just this way for Arod?  Other players in other seasons, if they appealed it wasn't heard right away.  Had other players besides Arod appealed this year, their appeal wouldn't have been heard right away either.

Much of what Evan said is good and on point.  But he was whining about Arod because he plays in his division and he doesn't want to face him, even going so far as to say he doesn't want to face regardless of how he is in his head/mind due to what this whole circus has done to Arod's mind.

So, what would Evan had done or said had say Nelson Cruz decided to appeal his suspension?  I think since Nelson isn't in his division, we wouldn't have heard from Evan and this article wouldn't have been written...

JohnP
JohnP

Yeah it's pretty evident you need a dictionary to function here isn't it?

JohnP
JohnP

You have no evidence, so you sound STUPID.

Savvy?

JohnP
JohnP

You looking like a fool bro?

You are a walking talking clown question...mysta

AaronDunckel
AaronDunckel

@mystafugee @JohnP anyone that says "you mad bro" is clearly a prepubescent teenager that is trolling the boards looking for trouble 


grow up - and unless you have SOME evidence - YOU'RE the one who's mad, bro

atthebarbershop
atthebarbershop

@shays01 @atthebarbershop @6marK6 That harsher suspension is an agreed upon 100 games, not 211 games. And because they didn't punish him the first time, they forfeited the chance/right to. Fcuk Longoria. If he was accused he too would want full rights extended by the CBA. Him and other people repeating applause lines for the media are disgusting. Bottom line, there is an appeals processs both sides agreed is FAIR.

shays01
shays01

@atthebarbershop @shays01 @6marK6 Can't help it if you are in denial … A-Rod has himself admitted to using peds, which is one of the reasons the League has for the harsher suspension.  Something about repeat performers who don't seem to understand the word "no".

atthebarbershop
atthebarbershop

@shays01 @atthebarbershop @6marK6 I suspect its because a fight or wearing the proper uniform is something that can be decided by looking at a video tape. Do you even ask yourself where the evidence of A-Rod's cheating is? U hate him, I get it, but of all the stuff that has leaked out, why NOTHING about someone seeing him take it or shoot it up or whatever they do? Everything else leaked out but that. Curious.

shays01
shays01

@atthebarbershop @6marK6 @shays01 Why should the team benefit from a potential cheater when the accusation is that he is cheating?  If MLB wanted to suspend a player for an unusually large number of games for fighting, or swearing, or wearing an improper uniform, or whatever, I would have no problem with the Yankees (or any team) playing that player until the appeal was heard.  

Bully
Bully

@Wisconsin Death Trip @CoryDowns If you want to communicate to other English-speaking adults in a public forum then learn the language. The old "I'm too facking stoopid to knows me grammer (sic)" is beat. Grow up.

KristianColasacco
KristianColasacco

@Sportsfan18 @KristianColasacco TL;DR You need to learn to write much more succinctly. This is a comment section of the internet, not a book of the month club. 

Nothing you wrote will change the fact that Cruz and Longoria are not linked in any way, shape or form and that Cruz accepting while Rodriguez fights has any bearing on the his comments.